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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: Doomsday Book #2
I thought it would be wise to re-post this here per Frank M from the Acaeum classifieds:
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April 1970; including "Sir Gary Gygax" and the "Order of the Morning Star"
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The original C&S Society of Lake Geneva produced 14 issues of their house newsletter, the "Domesday Book". Copies of issues 4 thru 14 are verified and in the hands of serious collectors. But despite the intense interest in this magazine (some copies of which contain the very foundations of the D&D game), issues 1-3 have never been found in the last 35 years of searching.
An old friend of mine, an aging wargamer from that era, mentioned recently that he had a copy of #2, and would bring it to GenCon (August 14-17). I promised him that I would try to help find a buyer.
I will compile offers from those who PHONE me before the convention. I expect it to sell privately on Thursday 8/14 or Friday 8/15. Starting bid is 1000.00 $US (shipping & insurance complimentary). Broker's fee (i.e. for me) is 5%, paid separately.
Frank Mentzer
Wisconsin, USA
Office 715-356-0066 (9a-6p Central Daylight Time USA)
Cell 715-605-2878 (irregular service, sorry)
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject:
Wednesday at the Acaeum dinner before GenCon Frank Mentzer stated it was at $5500. On Saturday another collector stated it sold for 5 figures. Not sure to who or the final price. I may be able to ask Frank waht the the final price was.
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject:
Elwood Blues wrote:
Wednesday at the Acaeum dinner before GenCon Frank Mentzer stated it was at $5500. On Saturday another collector stated it sold for 5 figures. Not sure to who or the final price. I may be able to ask Frank waht the the final price was.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:32 am Post subject:
Ditto that. I think it is great what this hobby has become. I congratulate all of you new and long to the hobby for making it into the market force that it is. _________________
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:42 am Post subject:
Unfortunately, we do not have any. There are very few in circulation. I suspect they look a lot like the IFW items as the Doomsday Book was simply a Castle and Crusades society offshoot of the IFW. _________________
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:05 am Post subject:
Amazing! It seems like the prices in this hobby keep going up. Particularly for the rares or ultra-rare in this case. Anybody here the proud owner? I would love to hear more about the content.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject:
tfm wrote:
Not me. There are only a couple of collectibles that I would pay $18K for and a Domesday #2 isn't one of them.
Really which ones? (maybe that wargame one mentioned before at the Frog and toad?) Are there many more.. I don't think I can think of any RPG selated ones off the top of my head
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:03 am Post subject:
tfm wrote:
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Really which ones?
Art.
Well yes, but I see that as a seperate collection issue... No purely rpg/wargame related? like the Doomsday (4 page!) thing.. I'm going to make a guess that Paul bought it or at least he was 2nd place...
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:14 am Post subject:
A friend once told me that if a person pays $5,000 for a car, then it's a $5,000 car--to that person. Likewise, if two collectors want to spend $18K for a piece of paper, then it's worth $18K--to them. The desire of two collectors is not enough to establish the value of an item nor re-valuate the greater market. The real winners are the people who sold it.
Hopefully, similar items will make their way into the public market.
btw, any of my games are available at that price. _________________ "This is cool."
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:28 am Post subject:
as with most things its only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.. having said that I wonder if any of the people that origionally had one of them are kicking themselves now! I know I would be....
Brette:)
(oh...my games are also available for that price as well...)
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject:
The only thing that could approach those sorts of numbers would have to be actual original manuscripts of the game itself. On the actual gaming side, that is. There are several works of art that would and have exceeded $18k, from my loose information. _________________
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject:
I haven't spoken to Paul in several weeks, but I'm not at all sure that he's the buyer, from various comments he'd made and things going on his life (home remodeling, etc.).
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