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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:51 am Post subject:
The one I have listed here already says "Third Printing, November 1978." I just got a SF18-R today. I'm guessing that there's one in between. I didn't know if there was a fourth. Thanks Allan. _________________ "This is cool."
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:07 am Post subject:
Well I have a picture and listing from an auction that someone gave me which was from a 2nd print..it is exactly like the 3rd print you have shown in the thread.
The product listing matches these books as well:
- Blackmoor 5th (3/7 (Shows ™ symbol on book)
- Eldritch Wizardry 5th (3/78 ) (Shows ™ symbol on book)
- Gods, Demi-gods & Heroes 4th (5/7 (Shows ™ symbol on book)
- Greyhawk 9th (5/7 (Shows ™ symbol on book)
- Chainmail 6th (8/78 )
So curious why the 3rd would be so close if what I was told was true.
The other one you have is a 1st from around July 1976
ShaneG. _________________ I reject your reality and substitute one of my own!
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject:
tfm wrote:
Thanks David. If anyone out there has the second, please add it.
I thought mine was a 2nd, but it's a third (Nov '78 like the one you posted). I assume you're not really interested in the later editions of MA (Amazing Engine from TSR, then the FFG and Mudpuppy editions)? _________________ grodog
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject:
We are interested. It doesn't matter if the company is old or new. Living history is just as important as actual history. The Research Forums are structured to meet the needs of anyone interested in role-playing, wargaming and their ephemera. The people who participated in the creation and maintenance in TSR or Games Workshop, for examples, had careers before and after. This site is interested in recording and honoring these people, their beginnings and continuing work. Take Jeff Easley. He was painting before he went to work for TSR. Please check out the Chacal fanzine and you'll see a couple of early paintings. More often than not, there is a body of work associated with most of the people involved in the gaming production community. But even more than that, the advent of Dungeons & Dragons inspired a whole host of other games. Kids were putting out adventures and supplements. The same thing happened within the wargames community. Dozens of wargaming societies in Britain were home-brewing their own material. Most weren't commercially successful, but that's not important here. What is important is that we recognize that they had something to say. Wargaming is an idea. Role-playing is an idea. Here, these ideas can enjoy the light again. The people get remembered. _________________ "This is cool."
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject:
Ralf Toth wrote:
Hello to you, too, David! Long time no hear...
Thanks & greetings, y'all. :)
tfm wrote:
Thanks David. If anyone out there has the second, please add it.
Welcome, but can't help personally, alas.
I'd been beginning to think that was a "hidden" print, but it has turned up on lists from time-to-time; e.g. http://chasethedragon.net/forsale.txt . What month was that stated to be, Shane?
My best guess off-the-cuff had been that the 2nd was a stop-gap prior to GW or riding off the back of that, but that continued fresh MA articles in TD after a long hiatus spurred renewed interest and thus a larger (3rd) print was produced to last "until all sold" (per the OCEs & supps). Haven't delved particularly deeply into that, however...
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject:
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tfm wrote:
The people who participated in the creation and maintenance in TSR or Games Workshop, for examples, had careers before and after.
TSR, yes, but GW were enthusiastic newbies with the possible exception of John Peake and he was /very/ much into traditional gaming. Which explains why D&D wasn't known to them (not that John cared) until so "late", relatively speaking (!). History partly rewrote itself on that backstory, it would seem...
tfm wrote:
The Research Forums are structured to meet the needs of anyone interested in role-playing, wargaming and their ephemera.
Mhmm... good ideals, but rather uncertain of the format, to be honest.
Steven (red_bus) pounced me with a "should have been a wiki" comment and I strongly agreed. The current set-up is still rather more "dynamic" than The Acaeum, however, and kudos for making a go of that.
tfm wrote:
This site is interested in recording and honoring these people, their beginnings and continuing work. Take Jeff Easley. He was painting before he went to work for TSR. Please check out the Chacal fanzine and you'll see a couple of early paintings.
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject:
The wiki idea was bandied about while giving the Research Forum (RF) a hard look to see if-it-could/how-it-would function. It was decided as a group the standard forum format was more flexible for our purposes, particularly with respect to the discussion of items. What ultimately makes it work as a presentation is the information within those individual items discussion gets dissected by an Archive Admin for inclusion to the permanent archive pages of the site.
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject:
Sorry, Kynan! Thought I had a 2nd print MA, but it was a first. Guess I shouldn't be too upset. It did give me an excuse to cut open the vacuum seal bag I had stored it in and everything seems just ducky. -Tom
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject:
Tom wrote:
everything seems just ducky
That's cool! I can't explain why, but I think that the lettered TSR material, F14, F115-R, SF18-R, and so on is one of the best collecting sub-sets of TSR. It's a border time between the OD&D days and AD&D. A, F, H, and SF appear to be line designations for Fantasy, History, and Science Fiction. I actually don't know what the A stands for. As a general rule it's easier to find stuff before and after than it is to find the letters. _________________ "This is cool."
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject:
Kynan, I know this is not appropriate place for this, but I want to see if I can put up a Photobucket image for the forums. This is the cover for a fanzine that is not on the list. I have scans of all the pages, too. It was for the Dragon-slayers club of Chicago. If all goes well, I should have lots of scans of stuff to offer. Just hope I can find the time.
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject:
That's great Tom! If you have a list of publishers/fanzine titles etc. you wish to add, you can post them to the Proposals for Research thread or email me.
By the way, hello again! _________________ "This is cool."
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