Gruft des Grauens (German S1)

Ralf Toth · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: Gruft des Grauens (German S1)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5186924971

Currently they sell around $50.
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scribe · Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:48 am Post subject:

Wow. I remember when the asking price for this started at $250. Is this $50 price pretty much the real deal these days?

Can someone point one out to me when they see one up for bids?

Ralf Toth · Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:38 am Post subject:

scribe · Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:38 pm Post subject:

It doesn't really matter does it? It is the same item afterall. Wink

Ralf Toth · Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:34 pm Post subject:

Ahhhh... but you know the discussion. There were 750 (confirmed) with the signature, it should be a thousand, but never has a number over 750 be seen.

And there are 30 or so unsigned copies. Says Uwe Siebel, who knows from some guy from Amigo Spiele. If that is true (and some of the major collectors have already jumped on it), than it'll be worth significantly more than the signed (unless the signature could somehow be erased). How much more - I don't know.

But $250 for a signed copy is pretty much.
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scribe · Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:09 pm Post subject:

I think the unsigned copy theory falls in line with the TSR spotlight/Secret of the Sages with and without mailing label. It is more rare to see one without a mailing label yet it doesn't make a big difference in auction ending amounts.

Considering I probably can't even read the thing, the signature (cheaper) version should be fine. Wink

Ralf Toth · Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject:

Ralf Toth · Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 9:28 pm Post subject:

Gruft des Grauens revisited.

This is a very interesting auction for several reasons:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5191444480

It is an unsigned version of the German Gruft des Grauens. I asked and the seller confirmed that he bought it at the AMIGO boot at the convention. That contradicts Uwe Siebel's estimation of 20-30 unsigned copies. If AMIGO sold the unsigned version officially, there will be a lot more than 20 or 30 copies. That reflects the auction outcome. The auction was ending at 52,59 Euro ($67). The most recent unsigned version sold earlier this year for 150 Euro, seller was Uwe Siebel and buyer was Scott Riddick (Foulfoot from the Acaeum).

It is obvious, that 50 Euro reflects the current value of the item. The auction above shows bids by several active German collectors. There was competition, while the Uwe Siebel auction was for a minimum bid of 150 Euro, so there were no competitors.
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scribe · Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 3:57 am Post subject:

I think this auction amount suits the value of that item as a gut feeling. I would look for this to hold true in the future.

Ralf Toth · Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject:

*BUMP*

This is a true classic from Germany.
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Glgnfz · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:01 am Post subject:

yep! but it doesn't help a lot, as the ebay-links have expired and you didn't write the auction's facts in your post. Twisted Evil

Ralf Toth · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:33 am Post subject:

Here's the sales row:

signed: 34,50 € 31,50 € 27,61 € 37,39 € 46,50 € 44,94 €

unsigned: 150,00 € 52,59 € 31,50 €

Data is from 2006/2007
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